• Eamon
    0
    Hello folks,

    I'm working on a project where I'm reproducing a design that runs at 3GHz and uses a 2-way power splitter. Previously used was an expensive (now discontinued) Holzworth HX3300 "Ultra low phase noise" power splitter. This Holzworth part has the following specs (to give a rough idea; of course there are also curves):

    Phase Noise of -175dBc/Hz
    Splitter Loss = -3.6dB
    Isolation = -38dB

    Now, I haven't found any other splitter/combiners with phase noise specs, and I've got my sights set on an otherwise appropriate MiniCircuits part that probably costs 1/10th of what Holzworth was charging when they were selling it.

    So, does anyone have an opinion on whether power splitters introduce excess phase noise, or rather, is there likely to be any differentiation between splitters in terms or how much phase noise might be introduced?

    Any insight on this would be appreciated.

    Eamon
  • madengr
    0
    I'm pretty sure thermal noise is half phase noise and half amplitude noise. In other words, -177 dBm/Hz from phase noise and -177 dBm/Hz from amplitude noise gets you -174 dBm/Hz thermal noise. So technically it's a low phase noise splitter just because it has low loss.

    Absolute lower limit of phase noise for a passive, room temp device is -177 dBc/Hz, and if that splitter is 0.6 dB excess loss, I'd think that would put the phase noise at -176.4 dBc/Hz, but this lists -175 dBc/Hz.

    That said, I'm sure piezo effect from substrate dielectric or capacitors will cause phase noise, so maybe they use low-glass substrates or certain caps.

    This is interesting. Maybe there is more to it:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321324476_Phase_noise_measurements_with_a_cryogenic_power-splitter_to_minimize_the_cross-spectral_collapse_effect/link/5b1be357aca272021cf46626/download

    So the above paper describes how an isolation resistor in a power splitter introduces a differential thermal noise that messes up (underestimates) the DUT phase noise in a cross-correlation phase noise analyzer. They fix it by cooling the splitter to 4K but 77K may also work.

    Maybe the Holzworth splitter is a purely reactive type (though not with 38 dB isolation), specifically needed for their analyzers, though the paper mentions issues with reactive types too, though I don’t understand what they mean.

    It’s also neat to see the splitter isolation decrease near 4K, which makes sense as the resistor is changing.

    Note I’m using the term power splitter, but maybe a power divider would behave differently.
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